tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-747236263452087289.post7955631540621643218..comments2024-01-09T05:19:39.331-05:00Comments on Ghostrunner on First: The Extra G Stands for "Gaming the System"Drewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07271534213351978408noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-747236263452087289.post-70836633592636096022010-02-07T22:36:54.931-05:002010-02-07T22:36:54.931-05:00I don't know if I'd call it a cynical play...I don't know if I'd call it a cynical play at a draft pick, more a working the system. <br /><br />Another comp pick for a reliever? Dustin McGowan for the loss of Graeme LLoyd.Bwillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03228443864101162916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-747236263452087289.post-43593050794945767322010-02-07T14:13:32.507-05:002010-02-07T14:13:32.507-05:00I'm pretty sure you can deny the options but o...I'm pretty sure you can deny the options but offer arb.<br /><br />Also, nobody suggested Speier was a cynical play at a draft pick. I think Bwilly was just highlighting what a departing RP can turn into.Gil Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01177204960812280259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-747236263452087289.post-76401494841489668252010-02-07T12:31:54.745-05:002010-02-07T12:31:54.745-05:00Two things: Speier left after numerous good years ...Two things: Speier left after numerous good years and contributions. He wasn't a cynical play at draft pick status. <br /><br />That said, the two option years pretty much crush this point. There aren't any picks coming back if they decline his options. He walks. Odd.Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07271534213351978408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-747236263452087289.post-48056663961356179672010-02-07T12:22:36.955-05:002010-02-07T12:22:36.955-05:00Actually it was Eiland in the second round. Ahren...Actually it was Eiland in the second round. Ahrens was for the Rangers signing Cat.Gil Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01177204960812280259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-747236263452087289.post-72874885066377275032010-02-07T12:14:36.496-05:002010-02-07T12:14:36.496-05:00We also go Arencibia or Ahrens for Speier as well,...We also go Arencibia or Ahrens for Speier as well, which may not look like much at this point, but they still might be worth more than Speier.Gil Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01177204960812280259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-747236263452087289.post-29632517180294844572010-02-07T12:12:44.884-05:002010-02-07T12:12:44.884-05:00The risk of accepting an arb offer from a team tha...The risk of accepting an arb offer from a team that might not want you is that they can cut you by mid-march and only have to pay 45 days of your annual salary. Then your probably only going to catch on as a minor league FA somewhere at that point. <br /><br />It may be a better idea to just go into free agency and try to find a club that wants you on a major league deal. (probably not to a team that would have to forfeit a first rounder though)<br /><br />But he maintains his type A status, might he not be worth keeping? Type A status would probably mean he either had excellent stats, or a bunch of saves.Gil Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01177204960812280259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-747236263452087289.post-84239263705412625662010-02-07T11:11:48.843-05:002010-02-07T11:11:48.843-05:00Gregg was type A last year making 4.2 million, if ...Gregg was type A last year making 4.2 million, if the Cubs offered him arbritration he would've accepted and been awarded 5 mil. Thats why the Cubs denied. Now people seem to think he'll at least be able to hold onto his type B status, but what if he holds onto to his Type A? He isn't likely to accept arbritration with his base salary at 2.5, hell if he's useful 4.5 for 2011 might look attractive to another team as well. He adds depth and in the grand scheme of things 2.5 million isn't alot of money. <br /><br />I like how you mention Cecil, We got him for Justin Speier a RP similar to GreggBwillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03228443864101162916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-747236263452087289.post-11521454927365297842010-02-06T00:01:49.617-05:002010-02-06T00:01:49.617-05:00Hilight of the post:
"He sucked before his ...Hilight of the post: <br /><br />"He sucked before his velocity starting slipping and his began throwing his cheesedick curveball all the time to compensate."<br /><br />Any time someone uses the word "Cheesedick", I applaudArchihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02151272110728462869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-747236263452087289.post-65992541120116442652010-02-05T13:41:10.728-05:002010-02-05T13:41:10.728-05:00Anthopoulos: "In a lot of ways, Kevin Gregg, ...<i>Anthopoulos: "In a lot of ways, Kevin Gregg, in terms of a role in the 'pen and being guaranteed a spot, he replaces Brandon League." <br /><br />AA: "As I sit here today, I don't see us doing anything [else before spring training], but that's pretty fluid and it could change." </i><br /><br />Interesting. I read the second tweet (Bastian) first and was confused, but the first tweet is an interesting angle. Of course, in our hearts, Gregg cannot replace League.Gil Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01177204960812280259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-747236263452087289.post-69707372566874927382010-02-05T11:30:58.412-05:002010-02-05T11:30:58.412-05:00I think you're over reacting a bit Drew. What...I think you're over reacting a bit Drew. What does it matter if Frasor or Downs are pitching for the Timmins crowd this year if they're not next year and we're worse for it?Gil Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01177204960812280259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-747236263452087289.post-25967855085756561382010-02-05T09:09:54.113-05:002010-02-05T09:09:54.113-05:00"Outside the box" seems a little too con..."Outside the box" seems a little too congratulatory for my liking. How about "outside the realm of good taste but still a necessary evil" thinking.Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07271534213351978408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-747236263452087289.post-20992378705209849372010-02-05T08:59:13.053-05:002010-02-05T08:59:13.053-05:00Prediction, Kevin Gregg will suck and the Jays wil...Prediction, Kevin Gregg will suck and the Jays will not pick up his option or offer him arbitration, therefore there will be no sandwich pick coming to Toronto.<br /><br />That being said, I also support this type of outside the box thinking, I just think they should try to go after more sure things like Damon or Dye.Peter DeMarcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13025682416268680287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-747236263452087289.post-48954472473391781742010-02-05T08:59:07.279-05:002010-02-05T08:59:07.279-05:00Very true. They must be willing to downgrade from...Very true. They must be willing to downgrade from Frasor because a deal is in place?Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07271534213351978408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-747236263452087289.post-87177719410270625672010-02-05T08:56:42.740-05:002010-02-05T08:56:42.740-05:00I've been thinking, just because the whole san...I've been thinking, just because the whole sandwich pick thing is <i>our</i> justification for the Gregg signing doesn't mean it was the Jays' reason. I know that it seems like the only logical explanation, but that doesn't automatically make it true.Tyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11878921441543129555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-747236263452087289.post-7268287254988476092010-02-05T08:47:52.271-05:002010-02-05T08:47:52.271-05:00It isn't as though I don't understand it G...It isn't as though I don't understand it Gil, I just don't fucking care. <br /><br />Excuse me for being a tad sentimental, but if the Jones family from Timmins make their annual trek to the Rogers Dome and are subjected to Kevin Gregg wasting their time, are we supposed to tell them it's okay because the team should get a sandwich pick out of the deal? Yeah, good players have been sandwich picks, but at what rate? 10%? 15%? 7%? Snooze.<br /><br />Just because I makes sense doesn't mean I have to like it.Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07271534213351978408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-747236263452087289.post-84957406826652589212010-02-04T20:13:44.437-05:002010-02-04T20:13:44.437-05:00I like the strategy of identifying cost effective ...I like the strategy of identifying cost effective FA's and signing them for their FA compensation. I have a fair amount of confidence that Gregg can return $3m of value (not much more). But $3m should be filling a void on the roster and I'm not sure there is one in the Bullpen. (I could see a starter being signed under the same scenario to save some of the young arms, though it wouldn't be my preference.)<br /><br />This makes a lot more sense, if it allows you to move out a veteran bullpen arm in a trade for a young prospect of some description.Gil Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01177204960812280259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-747236263452087289.post-62296866147908589912010-02-04T13:51:47.658-05:002010-02-04T13:51:47.658-05:00Shanon Stewart, Johnny Damon, Brian Roberts, Dusti...Shanon Stewart, Johnny Damon, Brian Roberts, Dustin McGowan, David Wright, Huston Street, Clay Buchholz, Chris Coghlan, Joba Chamberlain, Tommy Hunter just to nitpick......<br /><br />Granted, a sandwich pick is what it is, but it's another asset nonetheless. As a fan, I really do enjoy watching my team try an outside-the-box scheme like this. Watching another Jesse Carlson develop does little for me as a fan.Tools of Ignorancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18109247065467130509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-747236263452087289.post-19095045956004867662010-02-04T13:33:48.921-05:002010-02-04T13:33:48.921-05:00Amen. I have to say I agree with the you as this m...Amen. I have to say I agree with the you as this move is at the very least kind of puzzling. 3 million seems an awful lot to pay for a longshot pick, if that's the angle we are supposed to buy into.Mattthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16945030075122490090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-747236263452087289.post-56647028350581384122010-02-04T10:54:35.905-05:002010-02-04T10:54:35.905-05:00pretty bang on. It's one thing to bring in a j...pretty bang on. It's one thing to bring in a johnny damon or carlos delgado with the thought of getting prospects or a pick out of it it's a whole other thing to bring in an ok to shitty reliever.<br /><br />Watching young guys struggle is at least interesting due to the hope that they may be better. Watching crappy veterans struggle is just depressing. See kevin millar.jerkstorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00766555643273251535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-747236263452087289.post-45288228990196708782010-02-04T10:24:03.206-05:002010-02-04T10:24:03.206-05:00I'll have you know I no longer live in my momm...I'll have you know I no longer live in my momma's basement, Drew.<br /><br />Shit, now I've gone and ruined the illusion.The Ackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12374953233006854310noreply@blogger.com